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		<title>MJohnston: Created page with &quot;==Letter from Torli about the fate of &#039;&#039;Loki.&#039;&#039;==  Hello Marc and Johnak,  first of all - sorry for the delay in answering. I had to think about it for a bit to sort it all ou...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;==Letter from Torli about the fate of &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Loki.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;==  Hello Marc and Johnak,  first of all - sorry for the delay in answering. I had to think about it for a bit to sort it all ou...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Letter from Torli about the fate of &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Loki.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello Marc and Johnak,&lt;br /&gt;
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first of all - sorry for the delay in answering. I had to think about it for a bit to sort it all out. And now, let&amp;#039;s be about it.&lt;br /&gt;
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TRMN started in 2007 as an Honorverse group in Second Life and transformed into official fanclub a bit later, when Second Life was no longer a viable option ( I am sorry, I really dont remember why it was so. Martin Lessem will probably remember more).&lt;br /&gt;
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As Johnak already wrote, HMS Phantom was founded in 2008 as an INDEPENDENT Czech fanclub and we are not part of TRMN. We are in contact though, and let&amp;#039;s be honest, most TRMN members probably think we are part of the organization still.&lt;br /&gt;
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First TRMN chapter was the HMS Iwo Jima founded in April 2011 since first members left the Phantom to join TRMN in December 2010 - those were Stanislav Cech and Ivo Adamek ( I asked Stanislav to clarify that for me). HMLAC Kiki and later HMS Loki were founded for people who were not so military-oriented like the guys who crew HMS Iwo Jima, to provide a ship for them to go to. And as Johnak said, the driving thought behind it was to provide a buffer between the clashing egos - or at least, it was the reason why I decided to step up and try to work as an intermediary. I followed in Jan Cabrnoch&amp;#039;s footsteps, to be honest. From my point of view, he started the trend, but being the CO of Iwo was not beneficial in that regard.&lt;br /&gt;
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I will get a little bit personal here - I joined TRMN hoping to take the edge off the animosity that was plaguing both sides at the time and it was also one of the reasons why I agreed when Jan Cabrnoch asked me to serve as the CO of HMLAC Kiki and later Loki (by the way, Johnak got the timeline right - Loki was decomissioned in August 2014). My predominant motivation was to offer a place for people who wanted to join TRMN but were not OK with the stance of Iwo Jima&amp;#039;s members. I cannot be sure how succesfull I was in that - the point being, some of the people who came onboard HMS Loki had dual-memberships, but that was about it. The thing I was constantly fighting with was the fact that my crew members were...well, passive. TRMN really did not took root here and after a year or so, I have decided to decommision the ship as it was not fulfilling its intended purpose. I have thought a lot about that, but the last straw was when I sent an email, explaining the situation to my crew and asking them about input and got no response whatsoever. After that, I sent the decommisioning request to BuShips. The inactive members were transfered to HMSS Greenwich and I transferred onboard HMS Iwo Jima. As far as I know, no one from Loki&amp;#039;s former crew has ever asked to be transfered from there. Those, who had the dual-memberships carried on onboard Phantom and its sister ships - mostly passively, to be honest.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, if there is any need in clarifying anything more, please feel free to ask. And sorry for the long paragraphs ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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Captain (SG) dame Torli Mihai, KCR, SC&lt;br /&gt;
Deputy Commander BatCruRon 39&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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